Later I went to college and we stopped playing. One day he said that he wanted me to check out his band, Abstract, because they wanted to get rid of the drummer because he didnt play in time. I went down there and met the guys in the band. He was right about the drummer, he was way off time. I wasn't about to take anybody's place or anything, I wasn't there to do that. I was just there to observe. One time the drummer took a break and the band asked me to play a song real quick. I knew the song already and once I played the song, they told the drummer that they were letting him go. The drummer said that he knew that was going to happen. So I was playing with Abstract and we eventually established ourselves in the area. We didn't get to tour a lot, but we played at CBGBs and Continental. The music scene was much more exciting in the early 90's. It seems like there was more of a movement because we were part of the Black Rock Coalition (BRC). We joined them because we were not the only cats doing this, there were other black bands playing heavy hardcore shit and being real. So we joined the BRC but there was a lot of politics with that so we distanced ourselves from that. We were playing around [the city] and blowing people away and my friend documented our shows. I have a video tape of shows we did throughout the years in chronological order detailing how we developed. We started out as a new wave rock band from the late 90's into some heavy metal funk rock. It was a metamorphosis over like 4 years.

Then there was this other band, Funkface, that I kept hearing about. My keyboardist knew the guys in Funkface. My friend invited me to a show, I think it was at a club called RedZone. I can't remember name but it was somewhere near the Westside Highway. It had five floors of music. I saw Funkmaster Flex mix there. Flex was there spinning and this was the first time I'd seen him. He had four turntables and it was packed. And I was like, yo he's a wicked DJ.

My friend said Funkface is about the go on and he took me up to the top floor. The club had reggae in the basement, house on the first floor, hip-hop on the middle floor.

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